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USS Daniel Webster SSBN-626 Bow Planes
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DaveyJ576
Posted 2008-05-12 11:14 AM (#15852)
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Subject: USS Daniel Webster SSBN-626 Bow Planes

I am trying to pin down some dates as to when the DW had her bow planes. A picture taken during her launching clearly shows her with sail planes, so she was apparently fitted with the new set up prior to her commissioning (commissioning photos show her with bow planes). When were they removed?

There is a lot of conflicting info out there.

Thanks

Dave
Launcher Lary
Posted 2008-05-12 2:21 PM (#15864 - in reply to #15852)


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Subject: RE: USS Daniel Webster SSBN-626 Bow Planes

Bow planes were removed during the last overhaul at EB...rough time frame is 1975-1978...if you need an exact date, then you'll have to find someone that rode her through the yards at that time.

Billy Bob SSBN 626G '79-'80, '86-'87
DaveyJ576
Posted 2008-05-13 6:57 AM (#15885 - in reply to #15852)
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Subject: RE: USS Daniel Webster SSBN-626 Bow Planes

Do you know why they were removed? Was it a flow noise issue or was it mechanical?

Dave

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Bob Melley
Posted 2008-05-14 6:56 AM (#15918 - in reply to #15852)
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Subject: RE: USS Daniel Webster SSBN-626 Bow Planes

Interesting point....the newest PLAN boomers have sail planes....the Project 094 Jins......
Tincanman
Launcher Lary
Posted 2008-05-14 8:41 AM (#15922 - in reply to #15885)


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Subject: RE: USS Daniel Webster SSBN-626 Bow Planes

I was told (note second, third, etc, hand info here) that the boat handled great, more better than using sail planes, however comma, the Sonar girls complained of the noise...if there were other issues, I ain't privy to them, sorry.

Billy Bob
Bob Melley
Posted 2008-05-27 11:39 AM (#16197 - in reply to #15852)
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Subject: RE: USS Daniel Webster SSBN-626 Bow Planes

Larry:
Thanks for your input on the bow planes vs sail planes........My comment above was about the newest PLAN DE subs and sail planes.......Makes you wonder just how much the Chinese sub builders know about building very quiet boats.....There are newer versions of the Project 039 Song boats.......all have sail planes very far forward....soem good pics of these Chinese boats on TSR site.
The newest US SSNs, i.e., the Seawolfs & Virginias all have bow planes, I figure we must have used them for a very good reason.....
Tincanman
1oldman
Posted 2008-06-05 11:52 PM (#16516 - in reply to #15922)
Subject: RE: USS Daniel Webster SSBN-626 Bow Planes

Launcher Lary - 2008-05-14 8:41 AM

I was told (note second, third, etc, hand info here) that the boat handled great, more better than using sail planes, however comma, the Sonar girls complained of the noise...if there were other issues, I ain't privy to them, sorry.

Billy Bob

The bow planes also slowed the boat down some.
Coyote
Posted 2008-09-08 4:08 PM (#19433 - in reply to #15852)


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Location: NE Florida		Subject: RE: USS Daniel Webster SSBN-626 Bow Planes

All the early bow planes were terrible for radiating noise.

If you were slow and at periscope depth using the bow planes, it would be the hydraulic noise.

If you were going faster and vibrating a little, it would not be flow noise, but the rattling in the loose linkages and gearing.

Newer gearing technology solves it for the VA & 21s.

Regards, Coyote
paulused
Posted 2008-11-02 6:14 PM (#21075 - in reply to #15864)
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Subject: RE: USS Daniel Webster SSBN-626 Bow Planes

The bow planes were removed in 1975 during overhaul, I was on her then
DaveyJ576
Posted 2008-11-05 10:03 AM (#21171 - in reply to #21075)
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Subject: RE: USS Daniel Webster SSBN-626 Bow Planes

Hey! Thanks for the info! So, if I have the timeline correct, she was launched with sailplanes, converted to bowplanes prior to commissioning, and reverted to sailplanes in 1975. Correct?

Dave Johnston

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paulused
Posted 2008-11-19 6:11 PM (#21663 - in reply to #15852)
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Subject: RE: USS Daniel Webster SSBN-626 Bow Planes

Yes, that is correct
Ralph Luther
Posted 2008-11-20 2:16 PM (#21680 - in reply to #15852)
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Location: Summerville, SC		Subject: RE: USS Daniel Webster SSBN-626 Bow Planes

I made 2 patrols on the 626 in '67. It had bow planes then and they worked real well. There was much noise caused by them for the sonar girls. The did a good job when coming up to scope depth for shooting stars with the type 11 scope.
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