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Old Salt Posts: 402 | Subject: MBT's I've been going through the manual for the fleet submarine and have a question. All the Main Ballast tanks have a manual valve to shut the vent in case the main vent is damaged except Main Ballast tank no. 1. Why is that? Is it do to the placement of the tank? Courious Steve | ||
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Master and Commander Posts: 1576 Location: Wollongong, NSW | Subject: RE: MBT's Don't know the setup in the fleet boat you're talking about but in the Oboat we had 8 ballast tanks. 3 and 7 were nearly always used as fuel tanks; they did not have HP air blows. On surfacing, we would blow 2, 4 and 6 with HP air and then run the LP blower on 1,2,4,6 and 8. 1 and 8 had little emphasis on our freeboard or reserve of buoyancy. 1 and 8 would always lose air with the pitching in a lumpy sea; blow round every watch. | ||
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Old Salt Posts: 489 Location: San Freakcisco CA area | Subject: RE: MBT's All the Main Ballast tanks have a manual valve to shut the vent in case the main vent is damaged except Main Ballast tank no. 1. Why is that? LL - There are a couple of factors here and I'm not certain that I really understand what you are asking. Let me take a cut at it - 1. BOTH types of ballast tanks ["main" and "fuel"] have hydraulically operated main vent valves. 2. In the event of a hydraulic failure, the main vent valves are capable of manual operation. 3. BOTH types of ballast tanks have manually operated emergency vent valves except for MBTs #1 and #7. I think this is the crux of your question. There are two basic configrations for MBTS #1 and #7 vent risers. In GATO and BALAO classes, the vent risers pass inside of the pressure hull (Forward & After Torpedo Rooms) while in the TENCH class, they remain outside the pressure hull. The GATO/BALAO configuration was always viewed as a serious vulnerability, but the tank arrangement below the FTR and ATR and superstructure configuration simply wouldn't permit a non-penetrating external route. In addition, there is a lengthy discussion involving maintaining trim under the full operational range the boats could have that drives much of the MBT #1 configuration. In the TENCH design as well as GUPPY conversions of BALAOs, MBT #1 was relocated to surround the torpedo tubes. That automatically placed the entire MBT #1 and vent risers outside of the pressure hull. Since MBT #7 was inside of the pressure hull in all 3 classes, it was typically converted to a VFO or a storeroom, depending on the particular boat and the extent of the GUPPY conversion. So the standing question is why didn't MBT #1 have emergency vent valves once the risers were outside of the pressure hull? I have a short answer for that -- BESOM! Edited by SOB490 2010-07-08 4:07 PM | ||
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Master and Commander Posts: 1247 Location: Rockingham Western Australia | Subject: RE: MBT's Uhh long time since posting but in case anyone reads this the Oberon had 7 Main Ballast tanks not 8 they were saddle tanks with 3 and 5 having Kingston Valves which allowed us to run them as fuel tanks, on surfacing as I remember we blew 1,2,4,6 and 7 Main Ballast and then blew round on those tanks using the LP Blower to ensure full buoyancy. Good link at http://www.hnsa.org/doc/oberon/index.htm Has been a while so memory may be off some! Edited by iPOD 2012-09-06 5:30 PM | ||